At approximately 19:30 hours on the 14th August 1940 the German Luftwaffe Heinkel HE111P-2 was dropping its payload of bombs on the RAF training school at RAF Sealand. Locals are said to remember the captured aircrew in the village and subsequent removal of the aircraft. Cheshire. It was probably aluminum because we were able to lift and turn it over, but it was too big for us to cart away if we had wanted to for examination by experts. Expand your Outlook. They had the misfortune to be undertaking night navigation exercises the same night that the Luftwaffe launched its last big revenge attack against the RAF. Your session will end in {1} minutes. I’m Terry Rafter from Australia. Would be interesting if our fathers knew each other. We hit the M25 at rush hour on a Friday evening. Let me know re; the date if you have it? However, looking at Nigel Parker’s recent archive series there is also no mention of any German aircraft crashing in May – July 1941 in Nottinghamshire and these records are the best available. After more searching online and elsewhere, I discovered that 9 Do-17s attacked RAF Kenley on Aug. 18, 1940, in what turned out to be the last low-level BOB raid by the Luftwaffe (due to high losses). Hope you can help. A friend and myself found a possible 50kg bomb (without tailfin) which was rolled into a silt pond by my friends father when we told him what we had found. Is there anyone out there who may have more information about this particular incident? have some information and I’ve tried getting in touch with him but I’m trying all bases at the moment. There is a photograph of some RAF pilots making their way back across a mustard field after looking at the smouldering wreckage. The site was definitely at the dip in the Saddlescombe Road opposite to the track up to the farm, where the hillside drops away towards the Devils Dyke. Good luck and thanks again ( If I can get more info I want to do a painting of it). My uncle (SHC Thrower) was killed 16/11/1943 when “Wellington Mk 1c, DV918, from 21 Operational Training Unit took off from RAF Enstone at 2010 to carry out a training exercise. Thank you so very much for finding all that. Anthony. Hi Dave, Ian might have some more info from the Luftwaffe Crash archive volumes but the source I am using is “Bombers over Sussex 1943-45” by Burgess and Saunders (Middleton Press) as my reference. Any help would be appreciated. Sgt. Or you could ask at the Holmes Chapel local history group or put a post on the RAF Commands Forum; the group members there may be able to help? The system was upgraded with improved missiles and ground systems into the 1960's. It states it was shot down on the night of 8/9th Nov 1943 by an RAF nightfighter Mosquito from 85 Sqdn crewed by Sqdn Ldr “Bill” Maguire & Fg. A full account of this event is told in the book “Spirit of the Blue: Peter Ayerst – A Fighter Pilot’s Story.” by Hugh Thomas. The next day, the RAF and the local civil authorities came to his school and asked the kids to bring back what they had collected. Hats off to Ian for making the initial suggestion. I went there on my bicycle with a friend a couple of days afterwards. Will take a look Adam. She said the broken plane was taken away on lorries. Hi Owen, I found Petersen’s Cannock Chase record but don’t know anything about the rest of his crew. Also iam Curious about a Plane a Junkers 88A-5840 Which Came Down 13th August 1942 Shot Down By BS squadron Pilots Sullivan And Skeel, Freidrich was a Junkers crew Member I cant find nothing on the internet but I Have Bid on a Part from the Junkers On ebay. My Grandmother is standing by the aircraft and two children sitting on the tail-plane. It was protected by a variety of anti-aircraft artillery. Is there anyone out there who can either supply info or point me in the right direction . No crash at Saddlescombe is shown on the maps in either of the first two books by Burgess and Saunders. Do you have any data on crashes in this area I can follow up as it is something from my past I have frequently thought about. Mind you, from Bury it was 6.5 hours drive. Kuhistoff WAS. The result was that the Albemarles port wing stalled and she dived vertically into the ground. Hi John, I have taken a look but have found nothing concrete I’m afraid. I believe it was an Oxford I. Then if its not already been done I’ll probably try to do a local article for the parish magazine and then a proper on-line one too. If I get the chance I may go there and poke around, but no promises ! P/O A.G.Thomas KIA, F/S T.McCaffray KIA, F/S E.L.Horstmann RAAF KIA, F/S W.N.Pridmore RAAF KIA, F/S G.E.Davis RAAF KIA, F/S A.Cryer RAAF KIA, F/S A.H.Weston RAAF KIA.”. Cheers, Still searching in hope of finding more accurate location and any possible pictures of crew or plane Wellington DV936, 15 OTU. The pilot told them he was sorry & didn’t want to fight but was made too! Does anyone have info on the crash of an Albemarle in the fields just below the Westbury White Horse in Wiltshire. Couldn’t see this one listed, which RAF Brize Norton has just had on their FB page 27th Aug 20: https://bit.ly/3jnkhfQ. Can anyone confirm the crash location for Westland Whirlwind P7094 that went down in the early hours of 16 May 1943; given as either Melcombe Regis, Dorset or Higher Metcombe, Devon, killing F/Lt HJ Blackshaw of 263 Squadron based at Warmwell, Dorset? Cannot find any records relating to the crash. Bf110C S9+TH at Smallbridge? The aircraft crashed ten minutes later in the circuit of Enstone airfield, at Hookerswell Farm on south-east side of Little Tew”. My friends father said he recalls as a lad, a German bomber being shot down in the same area. Re; the wreckage, it would be good for it to be in a museum. Many Thanks And took up soaring for a few years, collecting my silver, gold and diamond badges. Might anyone have further data. horrible sight for anyone to witness especially a young woman in her twenties … Her Brother made a ‘ cross ‘ out of some farm material painted it white and took it to the hole in the ground and placed it against some nearby bushes, It was there for many years. ” I saw the plane come from the north, “said Mr. Harrison in an interview.” It seemed to be crippled and was flying very low. I also discovered that one of the first V2’s fired in anger exploded over Rotherfield killing 6 rabbits! He was originally from Stowmarket in Suffolk and I am the town’s historin trying to put a nice piece together about his short life. thanks in advance P. Jackson. Warm Regards, Keith Williams. My Daughter has Recently moved to a new housing development near to where the old Runwell Hospital in Essex used to be and I’ve been interested in the where a German bomber came down near to where her house is built now. I’ve got quite a few bits & bobs that you may be interested in. these are only my own personal opinions as I know there are still those who lived through the blitz alive today who cant forgive. I also used to watch Bury mostly away games. I will take a look but it’s not my neck of the woods really. Hi Jez, may be able to. At least one other Luftwaffe pilot, Alfred Hoffman was also buried here in September. The Indian Air Force’s future demand is to expand to 45 squadrons. Major Henderson the then owner said he didn’t want the site touched but he died some years ago so things might have changed now I think they were after the two engines which I think are still in the ground you could try battle of Britain maybe Hi Guys I was led to believe that the wreckage was all buried on site so it should still all be there including the engines as the excavation was stopped before anything was removed. Do please let me know how you get on, be good to add a photo here or a link to your site if you add it there for anyone else searching for it. Best wishes There was a coastguard cottage on the west bank of Cuckmere Haven and Observer Corps posts to the east on the Downs, overlooking the Channel and the raiders seem to have flown parallel to the Seven Sisters as they made their way to what surely must have been their starting point for the final leg to Kenley, roughly north of Cuckmere Haven. I’ve been asked to find the site where Lancaster ED835 crashed in May 1943 when returning, badly damaged, from a combat mission. I know it is a long time since you wrote for help. Parker simply records Ofw Platt “who died aboard Heinkel 1H+JD”, But in “Images of War – Luftwaffe Bombers in the Blitz 1940 – 1941” by Andy Saunders (you can get a free pdf of this book – or at least the relevant pages – online), the author says, Given the exact date, you could look at the local newspaper on microfilm for the days after 15/08/40. I would love to see it. A single seat FW190 crashed much nearer at Jevington on 7 Dec 1942 but that would be a single crewman. I only have volume 2 and I can find no one of that name, including phonetic variations. thank you Ian DB for achnowledging my story… I know it cannot be achieved at this late time (75 years on) But I would have loved to have been able to let his German parents know that he was not alone in those faateful last moments and that a british Mother was close by and sobbed for the loss of that dear son of theirs… I found site looking for information on a downed German bomber somewhere in Neath marshes during Swansea blitz and talked about by local people at the time but i have failed to back up the story told to me a few years ago. I believe(?) I have ordered a copy of the book through Amazon and am also awaiting a chat with the Saddlescombe National Trust people who may have some more information. Fascinating stuff, this! All four members of the bomber’s crew were killed and at least two of the bodies were taken to Hungerford and placed in the mortuary of the town’s psychiatric hospital. fertigungs-Nr F12. The Aircraft suffered an engine explosion followed by a fierce fire which led to the wing becoming detached before the plane crashed. Good luck in your research! school Now. Regards Hi Barry, many thanks for getting in touch .. delighted to make your acquaintance. Of the 5 crew, 4 survived including the pilot. Tom has no passed away. Narrows it down a lot. His name is listed in the GPC book. Your comments are appreciated. Willingdon and Hampden Park are just a bit north of Langney. I didn’t know the attack on Croydon was that particular event which turned the RAF to civilian targets and in turn took the Luftwaffe away from the air bases. I am still haunted by the discovery of four wooden crosses in Litlington (Sussex) church yard around 1950/51, which are no longer there, and which bore the names of four German airmen, I went back to look at the 1978 Bryan Philpott book ‘GERMAN BOMBERS OVER ENGLAND’. If so I know some one who has pieces of the plane. Two Years to Stop the Spread - Australia to Shut Borders Until 2022 Despite Vaccine. Wish I was down south, so much history on the south coast. I did wonder if stories might be getting mixed up over time? And a lot still in progress. Hi Barry, many thanks for making contact. We did not stay there very long. Thank you for the info. Apparently two Lancasters, ME323 and PB476 of 12 Squadron were on training flights when shot down by Luftwaffe Junkers 88s. Hi David, do you know the date it happened? The crash site was close to Lampeter, Mid Wales. No worries David, I’ll have a look this weekend and get back to you. I just wondered does anyone have any information about the plane and possibly a picture? Is there anywhere that I could go online using the aircraft info I have to get some answers? We used old photos from newspapers to help pinpoint the location of a Luftwaffe crash site on the east coast of Yorkshire last year. Needham could find no more to confirm the story. 110’s and a 109 as well. He had survived many missions over Germany and Occupied Europe but apparently was killed while doing some training flights, possibly in the Salop area. Under a crash program ordered by Stalin, development began in 1951, first guided launch was in 1953, and by 1956, 2,640 launchers were deployed in defense of Moscow. Thank you very much! There is a link to the wikipedia page about this raid below. Sometime in 1952 a pal of mine, Dave Smith, who lived not far from the crash site, collared me and we went looking for evidence of the impact of that 410. It looks as if you have found the one I saw as a boy, two days after the event. I was wondering if anyone had any details of crashes near Mountfield, Sussex. I do not know if the site I visited was called Poynings Spring. operation and because of low cloud base forced the aircraft to fly very low over the German and I bet that took the excitement away from her! Personally I am against the practice of digging where there may be human remains, unless done with extreme care and respect. Hi Dave, good to hear from you again. Status: Retired. Very comprehensive and well researched, good read and some excellent images as well bring it all to life. I now live in Sydney. I have recently purchased an original HE111 photo which proports to be a line of of aircraft in France at the beginning of the Battle of Britain. Had a lovely walk in the Downs. A story was relayed to the author of a German aircraft – reportedly a Bf109 or Bf110 but I cannot imagine a fighter coming so far inland – being shot down by the RAF at Bingham and some girls saw the pilot parachute down, whereupon they and a farmhand with a pitchfork apprehended him. Both men are still unaccounted for. Fatally disabled and with no landing gear deployed the Heinkel and Spitfire passed low over the heads of spectators standing on Salisbury Street, in Shotton, Deeside. 8/JG26 4+1 Isle of Grain pilot Uff Arnold Kupper Any help or suggestions would be appreciated regards Reg, I just bought two collages of pieces of WW2 crashed/shot down aircraft with some information, one is a Hurricane flown by Sgt Tony Pickering of 501 sqdn over Caterham and shot down over Happey valley Old Coulsdon, Surrey ( i have found photos and lots of information about this man. Do you know where I could view pictures of the plane? This service is set to disconnect automatically after {0} minutes of inactivity. It appears to be quite new as it is not on Google street views. The five Australians were buried in the Cambridge City Cemetery and the other two were taken to their home towns. Both survived the war and were decorated. Still watch the scores on tv, still hear myself saying, “We could make the play-offs” every time we win a game… But got fed up with travelling all the way to Leyton Orient on a Tuesday night in Deecember for an LDV vans trophy game only to get beat 4 nil but that’s football. But where you are is an area rich in WWII history of course. As you say, they were all human beings without much say in the matter. The ground certainly was marshy in that area, although it probably has been drained a lot since then. Will also look at those other resources, might be something else in one or two other books I have. He says he remembers it in the fifties when he was young and went hop picking. We also saw the jail were the crew was taken after capture. This engine part we gave to a museum on Dunkeswell airfield where American Liberators were based.We often looked for souvenirs there and on one occasion took away two stainless steel machine gun belts before we were politely told by an American guard that we should not be there! regards Alan. 374 shot down, more than any other District in Kent Sussex Surrey or Essex. She does not know anything about any subsequent exhumations. Will come back with more memories later. The crash is mentioned in Blitz over Sussex by Burgess & Saunders from Middleton Press. Also I think that no deliberate effort should be made to find his remains however if they are found they should be removed and given a proper burial and or a memorial with a service placed on the crash site. Feel free to add your photos etc here if you wish or add a link to your page? Research shows that high impact crashes meant many crash sites were not totally cleared of human remains. He’s still convinced it was a dornier but not really sure. It is always a pleasure to hear accounts such as yours Ray, thank you for adding your mother’s story. Max-Dankwart Birkenstock was the Bomb aimer, Freude was the pilot, Schulze was the radio operator/upper gunner and Becker was the rear gunner (usually in the under fuselage gondola, facing aft) are reported killed. Aeroplanes everywhere. And even where German airmen were buried in local cemetaries and graveyards, they were mostly exhumed and reburied at the German Military Cemetery at Cannock Chase (there are photos of it here under Britain at War) Hi Geoff, have you seen this? Required fields are marked *. That’s recently been made into the memorial mentioned above. I am often asked to look into reports – or rather memories of reports – of crashed German aircraft where there is no record on the internet. Frederick Fraser. would like to see aplaque in remembrence .anybody any info? Any idea as to the date it came down? However, the last volume of series I am hoping will identify your aircraft is due for publication on 1st Feb 2018; it contains a full index to the entire series. So many stories from the long-running war. Local school children, including my 14 year old day, heard of the crash and were soon on it the next morning. Barry. Here are the planes ID numbers again as my original reply has been ‘waiting for moderation’ for a few says now? Hi Kevin will take a look and get back to you in a couple of days if no-one else does. Went to see it straight away of course and it had done a fine belly landing; its engines were till “ticking” from the heat when I got to it. Three months after his crash the plane was withdrawn from service. Best regards, DaveP. Don’t suppose you know when in the war it came down? It unloaded its bombs in the sea and they exploded with a deafening crash. that I hope to go along to. Simon Parry has been of invaluable assistance to me regarding my own research of aircraft downed in my parish and might be able to shed some more light on the crash although as it did not happen during The Battle of Britain I don’t know whether he has as much information to hand. Obviously stories get distorted over time ! Thanks for adding that Joe. Sgt. Adam. The Nachtjagd diary books list pilots and what happened to them. I think the caption on the photo said those bombers were on the way to attack RAF Kenley. Someone had painted the crosses with the names of four German airmen, with rank, serial numbers, etc. Hi Guys.. He claims (in that year) a German Luftwaffe airman had baled out of his crashing Heinkel nearby. Similarly, if you find other info which might help, let me know. I would love to see some pics of it. But I’d be very interested to see that claim proved wrong! Hi Ken, here is your photo about which other people might be able to advise further. I would like to visit if possible as the incident was a major part of my father’s childhood memories. I haven’t much info, but do you have a copy of Michael J Hurst’s book on Lake District air crashes? Looking for information on Sergeant Walter Thompson service number 1066764 died 5th June 1942 buried in Bergen General Cemetery. Ian, Hi do you have any info on a Bf 110 shot down in a field near Tandridge/Godstone Surrey I believe the pilots name was Ruger who was killed. 234 Sqdn was in 10 Group and based at Middle Wallop. I was very young boy living in Oxford during the war and dont remember much except for the noise of the German bombers going over (Born 1939) and searchlights. Fantastic. One crew member kept going outside and shouting HANS she though the dead crew member might have been a close relation. Peter pulled up just in time as the Heinkell passed under the electricity pylons there. Anyone interested in this story can find the pictures and info on pages 614 616 and 617 of the (Battle of Britain then and now book) Also a photo of the wreckage and photo of pilot. Satanists herald 'important win for religious He is buried in Hailsham Cemetery.” Keith Williams says: ... July 1941 in Nottinghamshire and these records are the best available. My father was the pilot (William V. Rickards not V.H.Richards) he and his crew survived the war apart from Sgt William Gregor who died in POW camp. After further research, I have concluded that the only Do-17 of that nine-bomber formation that crashed on British soil was NOT the one whose crew was at one time buried in Litlington church yard. This mechanism had composition (not metal) teeth and incorporated a condenser marked Germany on it.This aircraft crashed on a farm near Honiton, Devonshire in 1940/41 I believe while minelaying I read about this many years in a book in a public library.Have you any information on this? The stricken plane flew over Alfriston one crew member bailed out over Cradle Hill not Alfriston his parachute failed to open and hence killed, his body retreived at site on Cradle Hill. For years there was some kind of wreck lying among the rocks, but we never were able to identify it. Any clues as to where to look or what book to buy would be amazing please. But a friend from the Stirling society is a doubtful they are of a Stirling crash. But anyway it is on the corner of Back Street and St Peter’s Close in the village. I am interested in the two pilots and the observer that died in the crash. J. Koidl, http://www.ramsburyatwar.com/crashes/Ju188.htm, http://www.hungerfordvirtualmuseum.co.uk/index.php/10-themes/736-police. anyway your efforts much appreciated When I say Seaford, we were sent to The owner has thrown millions into an ultra modern winery with 10 times the normal size vineyard. Abnahme 7.40, Sach-Nr 9-1108130-U08 Serial number of the plane and individual code (B3+?H) is not known, but if parts of it can be found, there is always chance serial might be found on a component or a part plate. I have tried to track the aircraft and also the airman, but without success. I have been searching for an aircraft crash that occurred in 1943-4 in Holmes Chapel (Church Hulme, Cheshire. Will reply as soon as poss. Reg Ds827 Feb/5/1944 Dont know what type of plane it was or if is connected to the aircraft panel you purchased. Enjoy features on a wide range of aircraft from rare vintage aircraft restorations to the latest Spitfire and Warbird stories, and from the first days of flight to the Cold War. Sad to read of your mum’s recent passing. I’m still planning on getting there sometime (I have a wonderful set of aerial photo’s my Dad took when doing his National Service as part of a weather recce for the Queens Coronation) and we’re planning a mini tour at some point to all the places photographed. Your email address will not be published. Do you recall where abouts you saw the crosses ? The detail is from page 30 bottom left hand side paragraph “On the night of the 8th May” etc, the photographs are on page 32. I could copy across some photos if you think this is the one? Great website. Looking at a very old ordnance survey map ‘183 Eastbourne’ the map reference for the mine would be 718194 -not sure what an up to date map reference number would be though. Ray Hill. In the Aug 1976 there was an excavation of the site (by the authors) that identified the aeroplane number #10244 allowing the crew to be identified as Major Wilhelm Schmitter and Uffz. 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